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May 23, 2013, 03:21:59 PM

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evidently, buz, you and pen just don't "get it." You are both entitled to your 'opinion,' but do not try to pass it off as fact just because someone you believe in says so.

I will not have debate with you or your crony about my religious beliefs. Period.

I will not have debate with you or your crony about my religious beliefs. Period. - bs

'Sensitive Material?'

Point made........

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Although Pen IS my 'crony' (http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/crony - a close friend especially of long standing), we actually refer to each other as 'komrade,' or 'hermano,'........

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If you are that scared, then dig yourself a hole and cover yourself up. - bs

There was nothing in the post that you referred to that evenly remotely suggested that Pen was 'scared.'

You seem to think that money equals salvation - -that is utterly preposterous!!!!! - bs

Man, you are reading something different than what I did. Pen, IMHO, was referring to those who drop money in the collection plates of 'alleged' christian churches while mistakenly 'believing' that Israel is 'our friend,' when nothing could be further from the 'Truth.' Re-read Pen's last line: 'Ahhh…. The monies some fools will part with, believing they are buying their salvation, but are in fact paying for their own demise in funding abusive and militant activities such as destroying much of Palestine.'

So, now that you've re-read it, do you understand that Pen is not thinking 'that money equals salvation?' I hope that this has 'enlightened' you...

Your comments are blasphemous,... - bs

See these 'definitions' of blasphemy: http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/blasphemy

I'll go out on a limb here and say that there has been no evidence in any of Pen's postings regarding the first definition (both a & b). I will say that Pen is absolutely guilty of 'blasphemy' regarding the 2nd definition, as I am also. 2nd def.: irreverence toward something considered sacred or inviolable
The 'key word' in that definition, bs, is 'considered.' 'Considered' by whom? At one time the earth was considered to be flat. Facts proved that consideration to be a lie.

Like Pen, I am well aware that most christians have been brain-washed to 'consider' Israel to be 'our friend.' It's like this, bs, and research it for yourself puh-leeze... Zionism was created at the end of the 19th century by a guy who convinced other guys that they shouldn't have to obey G_d, that they shouldn't have to wait for the 'appearance' of their Messiah to return to 'their' 'Promised Land.' This Zionist-movement swelled in numbers, after all, for quite a few centuries there were quite a few countries that had expelled their Jewish populations (do your research and find out why they were constantly being 'expelled'), and the Jewish people were getting sick of it. So, in effect, the strictly political movement of Zionism 'hijacked' the Jewish religion strictly for the purpose of re-populating the man-made state of Israel.

Many of us with 'eyes to see' (and btw, that 'us' includes a whole lot of True Torah Jews) has recognized that the true 'blasphemy' (the 1st definition) occurred when mortal men 'created' the 'new' state of Israel instead of waiting on G_d to do it, as was commanded by Him in the Torah and Bible.

Not only did Zionism hijack the religion of Judaism, in the last five decades it has been 'hijacking' the Christian religion. Hence, the 'origin' of Pen's title for this thread. Not only is our government killing and dying for Zionist Israel, many of our country's christian 'leaders' are promoting this madness, leading their flock of sheep into...who knows how it will all turn out?

Religion is what man did to G_d. - Anonymous

Check out this 'Jewish' website: http://www.nkusa.org/index.cfm

Read this (I've got the hard-copy edition):

Jewish History, Jewish Religion -

The Weight of Three Thousand Years

by Professor Israel Shahak

http://ety.com/HRP/racehate/shahakfw.htm

Learn,...don't 'burn.'

bill,

Sorry it's not 1607 where you could get the clergy to have me burned at the stake for being so "enlightening".

Buz pretty much said it all and there is not much I can add. Other than the fact that it's unfortunate your beliefs are so tentative as to be unable to discuss them. But this entire thread has little to do with beliefs or for that matter faith, but everything to do with religo-politics.

Politically based organized religion and the blind obedience of the masses to a handful of powerful tax free religious leaders. Who use their minions to manipulate politics as they enrich themselves by making sure their blind followers contribute regularly and rail against any who dare question their leaders omnipotence.

After many years (thousands) the god of this world ,Satan, has "found" the bones of Jesus and the rest of his family a wife and son. That was a lead story this morning on the Today program.
The Jesus I know is Alive and well on his throne in Heaven so it can't be the same Jesus of the Bible. He is getting ready to return. I hope it's TODAY.
I am so glad that I am saved by the blood of Jesus and not my own good works (Eph. 2:8-9)
All we like sheep have gone astray. For all have Sinned and come short of the glory of God

Warren
Nice hype, thanks for sharing. I'm sure the movie will make a lot of money and it may well be the family plot as Rabbi Jesus was a very powerful and influential man of his day.

I'm sure it will Pen.....I'm sure it will...............but I have to go along with Warren on this one..although I have to agree with you on some of your articlles...but I guess we can agree to disagree on some things and still live on the planet...ha ha ha

Bob,

I appreciate what you have said greatly, because “when we argue we show our ignorance but when we debate our intelligence”. Your personal religious belief is something I nor anyone else should ever condemn nor deny, as it is hopefully a genuine spiritual connection that is impossible for anyone else to fully know.

However, practice of any faith should be based upon an understanding, that what you know, is relative to the level of wisdom you have gained. An understanding that is not something to be institutionalize and mass marketed like a commodity wherein those who maintain centralized powers, control the dogma of highly profitable religious institutions.

For such things are not representative of the spirit world, but mans temporal practices and desires. Which means we must at all times be vigilant to the corrupting influences that can arise when religious dogma is highjacked by selfish men for monetary gain. Regardless whether it has been in the making for a few years or 17 centuries.

For we chose knowledge over life and are therefore charged in developing our abilities beyond the 5% mental capacity we now possess, instead of being dumb and happy for an infinite life span. To refuse to even inquire as to the possibility that we may have been deceived or manipulated in our practices through fraudulent biblical texts, it so to not only shrink from our responsibility but is to refuse God’s directive of seeking truth in all things.

To take at face value all things written in a book that was crafted by man over 1700 years is not only shirking God’s directive to seek truth, but is a fool errand in studies that are suspect. For 1200 years the Church of Rome controlled Biblical Text and kept it under lock and key, with some books such as Revelation being added as late as the middle of the last Millennium.

If you truly seek truth then do this simple thing, begin asking questions as to who, what. when and where the text you hold to be most dear, came from. Find out why Protestant’s practice a faith based upon Catholic texts held in secrecy for 1200 years, with church records showing when some of the newer text was added in the 13 century and why books that exist in the Dead Sea scrolls are not included into today’s.

When you begin to ask these questions new revelations begin to appear before you and new truths revealed. Showing you not only what has been done in the name of God, but what your roll has been and should be.

When George the W spoke before an Evangelical gathering in Texas, whose theme was called “The Evil’s of Islam, he exhorted the cheering crowd and told them “what a good job they were doing”. Since then his administration has promoted, installed and made sure that only those who were “Onward Christian Soldiers) got the primary positions of power. One has to now wonder about the new Federal attorneys and their religious positions, in comparison to the fired ones?

So as the American Taliban becomes more and more entrenched in our government, our ability to play well with others becomes more and more scarce. But when the military is taken over by Jesus Troopers ready to use spiritual beliefs in supporting military campaigns, we’ve reached the end of our Constitutional rope and now free-fall into the abyss of theocratic rule.

“Can you imagine a contingent of religious zealots, with their contempt for secular values (and such manifestations of secular order as the U.S. Constitution) - and with their zest for holy war - in control of the most potent fighting force and weaponry in human history? Is this possible?”

Well Mr. Koehler, it’s not only possible but it’s happened and history is full of such occurrences. Throughout the history of man, great civilizations where controlled through the “un-quantifiable infallibility of religious faith” that allowed the leaders to manipulate the masses through things unseen, fighting against terrors previously unknown.

The American Taliban is what is keeping the criminal Bush Presidency in place and poll numbers in the 30%, from which it will never drop. Because he constantly plays the prayer play, regularly sighting God in his speeches, so the Christian Taliban masses will not stray from his shepherding hand. And if they do, a little more terror will remind them why he’s been ordained from God to be a War President.

The Crusaders: “The Christian Taliban is Running the Department of Defense” - Robert Koehler
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17642.htm

Yesterday the American Taliban lost one of its primary leaders and founding member. Although I have nothing personal against the evangelical minister who helped industrialize, institutionalize and politicize Christianity for the 21st century, it should however be noted that Jerry Falwel was a primary factor in the merging of church and state like never before.

So as a criminal Presidency and the evolving police state uses the American Taliban to maintain their hold on power, the Taliban leaders themselves become seduced by the evil they adore. Immersing themselves and believing in the mysticism of the moment and obeying the imperial wizard anointed by the gods as a War President.

Trusting fully in what they have been told and taking back the pixie dust that was sprinkled on them by the benefactor of their adoration. Doing as the church has done for years - convincing the people to just “believe” what they say is true and do as they are told, because; “I wish the American people could have sat in on that meeting we had.” – Rev Dobson

So now the American Taliban goes forth and rallies the faithful saints against the evil of Islam, determined more than ever to make sure Israel is defended at all costs by the blood of our young, so that Dobson’s god will return to take his followers away.

Sadly, Mr Dobson never realized that Hitler came to power by convincing the Christian leaders to follow him in his holy crusade.

Bush met with Dobson and conservative Christian leaders to rally support for Iran policy - Max Blumenthal
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Bush_meets_with_Dobson_Christian_right_0514.html

As the American Taliban continues to extend its grasp upon our military, "special Bibles for military personnel would be disseminated" at public events to ensure the faithful are provided for and new initiates are encouraged. Praying, preaching and bombs are the order of the day by personnel who believe that even catholics are not real Christians and that only through evangelical beliefs and the support of a President called by God to be a war President may we be safe.

Group Threatens to Sue Pentagon Over Military Role in Evangelical Festival - Matt Renner
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/052507R.shtml